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<td class="print">0007925</td>
<td class="print">Part 01: TTCN-3 Core Language</td>
<td class="print">Technical</td>
<td class="print">public</td>
<td class="print">22-04-2020 08:08</td>
<td class="print">16-12-2020 16:55</td>
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<td class="print">Tomas Urban</td>
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<td class="print">Gyorgy Rethy</td>
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<td class="print-category">Priority</td>
<td class="print">normal</td>
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<td class="print">minor</td>
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<td class="print">have not tried</td>
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<td class="print">closed</td>
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<td class="print">fixed</td>
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<td class="print">4.12.1 (published 2020-05)</td>
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<td class="print">4.13.1 (ongoing)</td>
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<td class="print">4.13.1 (ongoing)</td>
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<td colspan="4" class="print">15.3</td>
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<td colspan="4" class="print">Elvior</td>
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<td class="print-category">Summary</td>
<td colspan="5" class="print">0007925: Non-abstract signature
templates</td>
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<td colspan="5" class="print">The restriction on non-abstract templates
15.3.d should apply to message templates only. In case of signature
templates, the restriction shall say that either all in parameters or
all out parameters (or both) shall be fully initialized if the template
is not marked as abstract.</td>
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alt="docx" /> CR7925-1.docx (182,874) <span class="italic">12-08-2020
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http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3917&amp;type=bug<br />
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alt="docx" /> CR7925-2.docx (183,621) <span class="italic">13-08-2020
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http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3934&amp;type=bug</td>
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<td class="print">22-04-2020 08:08</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">10-08-2020 10:35</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=82">Jens
Grabowski</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">=&gt; Tomas Urban</td>
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<td class="print">10-08-2020 10:35</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=82">Jens
Grabowski</a></td>
<td class="print">Status</td>
<td class="print">new =&gt; assigned</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 08:52</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 08:57</td>
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href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 08:57</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Tomas Urban =&gt; Jacob Wieland - Spirent</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 08:57</td>
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href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015704</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 09:28</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">assigned =&gt; confirmed</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 14:56</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015713</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 14:56</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Jacob Wieland - Spirent =&gt; Tomas Urban</td>
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<td class="print">12-08-2020 14:56</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
<td class="print">Status</td>
<td class="print">confirmed =&gt; assigned</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 08:36</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">File Added: CR7969-2.docx</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 08:46</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015719</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 08:46</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Tomas Urban =&gt; Jacob Wieland - Spirent</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 08:46</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">assigned =&gt; confirmed</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 08:46</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Edited: 0015719</td>
<td class="print">bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=15719#r524</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 10:10</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015723</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 10:10</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Jacob Wieland - Spirent =&gt; Tomas Urban</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 10:10</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob
Wieland - Spirent</a></td>
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<td class="print">confirmed =&gt; assigned</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 11:21</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 11:21</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 11:21</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015726</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 11:22</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Tomas Urban =&gt; Jacob Wieland - Spirent</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 11:22</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">assigned =&gt; confirmed</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 13:33</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=82">Jens
Grabowski</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Jacob Wieland - Spirent =&gt; KristÃ³f Szabados</td>
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<td class="print">13-08-2020 13:33</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=82">Jens
Grabowski</a></td>
<td class="print">Status</td>
<td class="print">confirmed =&gt; assigned</td>
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<td class="print">14-08-2020 09:56</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=361">KristÃ³f
Szabados</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015748</td>
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<td class="print">14-08-2020 09:56</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=361">KristÃ³f
Szabados</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">KristÃ³f Szabados =&gt; Tomas Urban</td>
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<td class="print">07-10-2020 09:57</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015764</td>
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<td class="print">07-10-2020 10:26</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015771</td>
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<td class="print">07-10-2020 10:26</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
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<td class="print">assigned =&gt; resolved</td>
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<td class="print">07-10-2020 10:26</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Resolution</td>
<td class="print">open =&gt; fixed</td>
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<td class="print">07-10-2020 10:26</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=659">Tomas
Urban</a></td>
<td class="print">Assigned To</td>
<td class="print">Tomas Urban =&gt; Gyorgy Rethy</td>
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<td class="print">16-12-2020 16:55</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy
Rethy</a></td>
<td class="print">Note Added: 0015870</td>
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<td class="print">16-12-2020 16:55</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy
Rethy</a></td>
<td class="print">Status</td>
<td class="print">resolved =&gt; closed</td>
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<td class="print">16-12-2020 16:55</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy
Rethy</a></td>
<td class="print">Product Version</td>
<td class="print">=&gt; 4.12.1 (published 2020-05)</td>
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<td class="print">16-12-2020 16:55</td>
<td class="print"><a
href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy
Rethy</a></td>
<td class="print">Fixed in Version</td>
<td class="print">=&gt; 4.13.1 (ongoing)</td>
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<td class="print">I think the proposal is still problematic.<br />
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A completely initialized reply template (out/inout initialized) which is
not completely initialized as a call template should not be used in
call/getcall and vice versa.<br />
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Thus, this should probably be clarified that for certain operations, the
template need to be completely initialized in a specific way (and not
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<td class="print"><a
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<td class="print">I added related rules to these cases (in + inout -&gt;
only call and getcall; out + inout -&gt; only reply and getreply). That
should hopefully resolve the issue and allow compilers to detect some
errors while still being backwards compatible.<br />
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<td class="print">unfortunately, the last proposal is one for a
different CR, please replace with correct one.</td>
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<td class="print">Please check now.</td>
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<td class="print">Maybe the current text is a bit too restrictive?<br />
<br />
"<br />
• All procedure parameters are fully initialized.<br />
• All in and inout procedure parameters are completely initialized and
all out procedure parameters are either unitialized or marked as not
relevant using the NotUsedSymbol. Templates declared this way are safe
to be used in call and getcall operations, but they shall not be used in
reply and getreply operations.<br />
"<br />
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What if my signature has 2 out parameters, I set one of it to a "normal"
value and the other is left uninitialized/set to notusedsymbol ?<br />
This should still be safe to be used in call and getcall operations,
since the values of the out parameters are simply ignored.<br />
Maybe it is not the most performant code to set an ignored parameter to
som value ... but should not cause harm.<br />
<br />
The same argument can also be said with in parameters and reply
operations. They will be ignored .. that is not really efficient, but
also not a reason for error either.</td>
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<td class="print">What is the use case for creating such a non-abstract
template? I cannot figure out any other than further extension in which
case the template should be marked as abstract.<br />
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On many occasions you emphasized that language design should encourage
good coding practices. Writing inefficient code (though a safe one) is
definitely not a good coding practice.<br />
<br />
Partially defined templates cause real problems, because they are usally
discovered late in production testing. The common way how they get into
the code is when new elements are added to types (or parameters in case
of signatures) and the related templates are not updated.<br />
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Consider this:<br />
signature S(in integer p1, in integer p2);<br />
template S mw_sign1 := { p1:= 2 }<br />
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According to my proposal, this should produce an error. However, if we
apply the rules you suggest, this is a completey fine template for reply
and getreply operations. In my opinion, it would be quite
misleading.</td>
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<td class="print">After TTF discussion it was decided to go on with the
more restrictive option.</td>
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