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<br /><table class="width100" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="form-title" colspan="6"><div class="center">ETSI's Bug Tracker - Part 01: TTCN-3 Core Language</div></td></tr><tr><td class="form-title" colspan="6">View Issue Details</td></tr><tr><td class="print-spacer" colspan="6"><hr size="1" /></td></tr><tr class="print-category"><td class="print" width="16%">ID</td><td class="print" width="16%">Project</td><td class="print" width="16%">Category</td><td class="print" width="16%">View Status</td><td class="print" width="16%">Date Submitted</td><td class="print" width="16%">Last Update</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">0007172</td><td class="print">Part 01: TTCN-3 Core Language</td><td class="print">Clarification</td><td class="print">public</td><td class="print">10-09-2015 10:35</td><td class="print">14-12-2015 13:03</td></tr><tr><td class="print-spacer" colspan="6"><hr size="1" /></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Reporter</td><td class="print">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</td><td class="print" colspan="4">&#160;</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Assigned To</td><td class="print">Gyorgy Rethy</td><td class="print" colspan="4">&#160;</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Priority</td><td class="print">normal</td><td class="print-category">Severity</td><td class="print">minor</td><td class="print-category">Reproducibility</td><td class="print">have not tried</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Status</td><td class="print">closed</td><td class="print-category">Resolution</td><td class="print">fixed</td><td class="print" colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Platform</td><td class="print"></td><td class="print-category">OS</td><td class="print"></td><td class="print-category">OS Version</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Product Version</td><td class="print">v4.7.1 (published 2015-06)</td><td class="print" colspan="4">&#160;</td></tr><tr><td class="print-category">Target Version</td><td class="print">v4.8.1 (published 2016-07)</td><td class="print-category">Fixed in Version</td><td class="print">v4.8.1 (published 2016-07)</td><td class="print" colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Clause Reference(s)</td><td class="print" colspan="4">11.1, 11.2, 19</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Source  (company  - Author)</td><td class="print" colspan="4">Testing Technologies - Jacob Wieland</td></tr><tr><td class="print-spacer" colspan="6"><hr size="1" /></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Summary</td><td class="print" colspan="5">0007172: Is variable initialization with undefined function result allowed?</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Description</td><td class="print" colspan="5">It is forbidden to assign a variable an undefined value, but it is allowed to explicitly initialize with -, i.e. leave it explicitly uninitialized. <br />
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The intent of this was to disallow uninitializing things that are already initialized.<br />
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Therefore, it should be clarified that variable initialization with a function call that returns an uninitialized result is allowed (in my understanding, it is, but some customers question that).<br />
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Also, maybe the restriction should be relaxed to apply only to (partially) initialized variables. I.e. assignment of uninitialized to an uninitialized variable should be allowed, as it can not be harmful.<br />
</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Steps To Reproduce</td><td class="print" colspan="5"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Additional Information</td><td class="print" colspan="5"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Tags</td><td class="print" colspan="5"><a href='tag_view_page.php?tag_id=1' title=''>technically agreed</a></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Relationships</td><td class="print" colspan="5"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print-category">Attached Files</td><td class="print" colspan="5"><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v1.docx (91,441) <span class="italic">23-09-2015 17:54</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3275&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v2.docx (103,298) <span class="italic">24-09-2015 15:33</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3283&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v3.docx (103,083) <span class="italic">24-09-2015 16:36</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3285&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v4.docx (105,421) <span class="italic">25-09-2015 09:55</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3287&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v5.docx (107,562) <span class="italic">25-09-2015 13:50</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3291&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v6.docx (105,950) <span class="italic">13-10-2015 16:54</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3305&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v7.docx (109,746) <span class="italic">13-10-2015 17:26</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3306&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v8.docx (112,222) <span class="italic">16-10-2015 08:39</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3327&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v8-Comments.docx (84,298) <span class="italic">16-10-2015 10:54</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3331&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v9.docx (113,761) <span class="italic">02-11-2015 15:58</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3340&amp;type=bug<br /><img src="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/images/fileicons/doc.gif" alt="docx" />&#160;CR7172_resolution_v10.docx (132,430) <span class="italic">03-11-2015 10:42</span><br />http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=3346&amp;type=bug</td></tr><tr><td class="print-spacer" colspan="6"><hr size="1" /></td></tr><tr><td class="form-title">Issue History</td></tr><tr class="print-category"><td class="row-category-history">Date Modified</td><td class="row-category-history">Username</td><td class="row-category-history">Field</td><td class="row-category-history">Change</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">10-09-2015 10:35</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">New Issue</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">21-09-2015 09:51</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Project</td><td class="print">TTCN-3 Change Requests =&gt; Part 01: TTCN-3 Core Language</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">21-09-2015 10:26</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Target Version</td><td class="print"> =&gt; v4.8.1 (published 2016-07)</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">22-09-2015 10:12</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Tag Attached: technically agreed</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">22-09-2015 10:13</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Note Added: 0013235</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">22-09-2015 10:13</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Assigned To</td><td class="print"> =&gt; 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Jacob Wieland - Spirent</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 16:54</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=127">Gyorgy Rethy</a></td><td class="print">Status</td><td class="print">assigned =&gt; confirmed</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:26</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">File Added: CR7172_resolution_v7.docx</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:26</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Note Added: 0013379</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:27</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Assigned To</td><td class="print">Jacob Wieland - Spirent =&gt; Gyorgy Rethy</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:27</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Status</td><td class="print">confirmed =&gt; assigned</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:27</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Note Added: 0013380</td><td class="print"></td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:27</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Assigned To</td><td class="print">Gyorgy Rethy =&gt; Jens Grabowski</td></tr><tr class="print"><td class="print">13-10-2015 17:27</td><td class="print"><a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a></td><td class="print">Status</td><td class="print">assigned =&gt; 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				22-09-2015 10:13&#160;&#160;&#160;
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				STF discussion: clarify that initialization is an assignment. Check also functions returning uninitialized.			</td>
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				23-09-2015 17:56&#160;&#160;&#160;
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				Proposed resolution is in CR7172_resolution_v1.docx. Please review.			</td>
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				Unfortunately, this proposal does not solve the problem. Defining initialization does not carry over the restrictions of the Assignment statement to the initialization assignment part of the variable declaration statement.<br />
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You are confusing the concept of assignment with the Assignment sintatement. The Assignment statement is a syntactical structure. Thus, all restrictions in the section Assignments is only applicable to those statements (unless stated otherwise).<br />
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What would be helpful would be adding in the Declaring Variables section that all restrictions on Assignment statements in the Assignments section also apply to the initialization part.			</td>
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				In CR7172_resolution_v3.docx restrictions are added to the value variable, template variable and template clauses. Also a sentence is added to the completely initialized definition saying that {} also initializes empty records and sets, as we just have discussed.			</td>
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				First question: Why is the text about structurd types (for completely initialized definition) in a NOTE while the one for simple types isn't?<br />
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Secondly: I still think this text leaves the question open whether or not an empty record/set type or a record of/set of/array type with min length 0 is already completely initialized without assigning {}. Since mathematically, the first sentence already applies to these types (all elements or fields - the empty set here - have been completely initialized), that sentence alone does not force any additional action for complete initialization.<br />
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The following sentence is also no further restriction on this. It says, that if you initialize with {}, then it is completely initialized, but that is not a necessary condition for completely initialized, just a valid one. I'm missing something like &quot;at least&quot; or &quot;only&quot;, saying that for empty record/set types, for them to become completely initialized they HAVE to be assigned {} and the same for record of/set of/array types.			</td>
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				changed the wording of completely initialized to be less ambiguous. please review			</td>
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				Now, in CR7172_resolution_v5.docx I have separated the cases: simple type, unions, record/set-s and record/set of-s, as we discussed. I think that trying to define common rules for record/set and record/set of-s was one of the source of the problems as they are, in fact, completely different constructs.<br />
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I have restored the NOTE that now lists &quot;the solutions&quot; for some interesting/specific cases. I hope that this, together with the definition of initialization solves the empty record/set issue. If not, then we will have to insert a sentence about initialization of empty record/sets to clauses 6.2.1 and 6.2.2.<br />
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				Unfortunately, the mandatory definition text is still implying that empty structured types are completely initialized even without assignment (all their elements/fields HAVE been completely initialized). The NOTE contradicts this and is thus more restrictive. <br />
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The last sentence that completely initialized implies &quot;at least partially initialized&quot; is necessary as for partially initialized it is necessary that at least one field/element has been partially initialized. For empty values, that is not true, therefore, it must be stated explicitly somewhere.			</td>
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				See CR7172_resolution_v6.docx. I have no better idea than slicing the cases further on to empty and non-empty record/set-s. jacob, if you have further comment, please come up with a concrete text proposal in a new version of the file.			</td>
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				I have added another proposal that, in my opinion, is airtight regarding this issue.			</td>
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				please review and resolve			</td>
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				<a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=82">Jens Grabowski</a>&#160;&#160;&#160;
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				I am sorry, the more I am reading the resolutions the less I understand it.<br />
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I understand that variables or parameters can be uninitialized, partially initialized or completely initialized, but I don’t understand how a value can be uninitialized, partially initialized or completely initialized.<br />
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A variable has a type which defines the possible set of values for this variable (its domain).<br />
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Uninitialized means that you can say nothing about the relation between value of the variable and its domain.<br />
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Completely initialized means that the variable value represents exactly one value in the domain of the variable.<br />
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Partially initialized means that parts of the variable value are known, i.e., are completely initialized, and that other parts remain uninitialized.<br />
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Maybe it is easier to argue along this line instead of making examples for all kinds of types.			</td>
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				<a href="http://oldforge.etsi.org/mantis/view_user_page.php?id=508">Jacob Wieland - Spirent</a>&#160;&#160;&#160;
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				added another version which defines three disjoint states: uninitialized, partially initialized (only possible for structured types) and completely initialized. The attached NOTES are just for clarification of the special cases. The definitions should reflect our requirements.<br />
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please review once more.			</td>
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				I can live with this definition.			</td>
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				CR7172_resolution_v9.docx: I have made the different options of initialization a note as Jens proposed (no change in text).<br />
I changed partially initialized:<br />
- we say that completely initialized things are also fulfils partially initialized criteria, while the new text for partially initialized excluded this (saying that it is uninitialized and not completely initialized.<br />
- I prefer some direct definition instead of saying that it is not uninitialized (it seems to be obvious, in this case no definition would be needed).			</td>
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				replaced &quot;no content initialization&quot; with &quot;no initialization of it or at least one of its parts&quot; in the definition of uninitialized. content initialization is too ambiguous (someone might think that only content initialization can change the state from uninitialized to not uninitialized, but the assignment of {} does not initialize content, but still initializes).<br />
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